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	00:37:49 Lucien Greaves: Well, there's a, there was a confluence of factors at that time. And I've read a lot about this and researched a lot about it. And there's a movement that still goes on, let's still insist on putting forward Satanic Panic ideas. It still does encroach sometimes in the courtrooms and in ruins, people's lives and everything else. And it's something a lot of people don't realize is just how this still does happen. And that's what makes, you know, our project. Importantly, but what happened in the 80s was, culture was changing. A lot of a lot of single parents who are now single parents were becoming more than norm in divorce parents and, and working parents were both the mother and father were working. So the daycare culture started propping up and people were worried that children being raised in daycares was was going to destroy them with a moral fabric of our culture, and who are these people watching over the children. And there was a general called scare. That was kind of a backlash from the 60s and 70s and the Jim Jones calls and everything else. So the idea of cults and brainwashing became this big idea also, and you had religious conservatives, worried about Satan and Satanism as they, as they always are. And you also had these therapists who had this therapy movements for multiple personality disorder became this big idea. And with multiple personality disorder, is kind of hinges on this idea that certain traumas are so so explicitly in comprehensible to the conscious mind that they are repressed. So people can have these buried memories of highly traumatic events. They have no recollection of it, but it causes different types of melees in their in their daily life in other ways somebody has trouble holding a job. Well, you know, maybe they were molested as a child and And totally forgot about it. It just kind of made its way into the culture where people still think that this is actually a fact of psychology. But there's no cognitive science back to this idea. And you had these you had some of these therapists practicing recovered memory therapies where they would try to draw off for the memories of abuse that had caused these people to have whatever problems they're having today. And this is the same tactic by which people are regressed to recall past lives or by which people recall that they were abducted by aliens is is confabulation, you know, they, they put into a hypnotic state, and they have this general idea of what they're supposed to be remembering. Obviously, there's supposed to be a trauma in the background is usually supposed to be a sexual trauma involving incest. Well, as these stories would come out, there was also this idea that these recovered memories were of high fidelity, they were sitting in the mind untouched, so they must be true. If these memories were recovered, that alone is evidence of their truth, their veracity is unimpeachable. Oh, they run into these problems where the facts don't match, you know, geographical location, whatever else that somebody wasn't there when he's claiming he's supposed to be less than somebody or whatever, medical records don't exist. And so to explain that away, it becomes a larger conspiracy, you know, so you have these kinds of converging factors. And then you just have this huge satanic scare because they had the McMartin preschool case where one kid was claimed to have been molested at the school. And it turns out, the woman who, who was the mother of that child was schizophrenic, and they'd often made these outrageous claims anyway, but the whole idea devolved in this hysteria, because they then had the kid questions really interrogated by these by these unqualified therapist who felt that the, the only way to get the truth out of these children was to essentially browbeat them into into saying that they were molested, you can watch the tapes on these kinds of cases, like Martin Keller daycare case, Gerald emerald, these types of things. So they put forward this idea also that children can possibly make this thing up, but they made the ideas quite clear to the children what they were looking for. So they get these outrageous stories of the satanic calls at this McMartin preschool Center, which couldn't possibly have been true in. But being that you had such a huge social panic of the court, sometimes were cowed into imprisoning people for many years at a time. And, and as I said, this kind of thing still happens today, some Dan and Fran Keller ran a daycare center and their case is still on appeal. They've been in prison, they've been in prison all this time for the exact same type of thing. And you still have people claiming savings and you still have these therapists, you still have the pockets of therapists who work in dissociative disorders. Now multiple personality disorder is called dissociative identity disorder in the Diagnostic Statistical Manual. And they're still putting out this idea that this satanic ritual abuse exists and is and is a thing. And they really do need a group to counter this to ask them to qualify what they say about Satanism, and who they mean when they're talking about Satanists. And how they can just throw that word out there like that, as we all know what they're talking about. And I'm hoping that we can be a proper counter force to that.		00:37:49 Lucien Greaves: Well, there's a, there was a confluence of factors at that time. And I've read a lot about this and researched a lot about it. And there's a movement that still goes on, let's still insist on putting forward Satanic Panic ideas. It still does encroach sometimes in the courtrooms and in ruins, people's lives and everything else. And it's something a lot of people don't realize is just how this still does happen. And that's what makes, you know, our project. Importantly, but what happened in the 80s was, culture was changing. A lot of a lot of single parents who are now single parents were becoming more than norm in divorce parents and, and working parents were both the mother and father were working. So the daycare culture started propping up and people were worried that children being raised in daycares was was going to destroy them with a moral fabric of our culture, and who are these people watching over the children. And there was a general called scare. That was kind of a backlash from the 60s and 70s and the Jim Jones calls and everything else. So the idea of cults and brainwashing became this big idea also, and you had religious conservatives, worried about Satan and Satanism as they, as they always are. And you also had these therapists who had this therapy movements for multiple personality disorder became this big idea. And with multiple personality disorder, is kind of hinges on this idea that certain traumas are so so explicitly in comprehensible to the conscious mind that they are repressed. So people can have these buried memories of highly traumatic events. They have no recollection of it, but it causes different types of melees in their in their daily life in other ways somebody has trouble holding a job. Well, you know, maybe they were molested as a child and And totally forgot about it. It just kind of made its way into the culture where people still think that this is actually a fact of psychology. But there's no cognitive science back to this idea. And you had these you had some of these therapists practicing recovered memory therapies where they would try to draw off for the memories of abuse that had caused these people to have whatever problems they're having today. And this is the same tactic by which people are regressed to recall past lives or by which people recall that they were abducted by aliens is is confabulation, you know, they, they put into a hypnotic state, and they have this general idea of what they're supposed to be remembering. Obviously, there's supposed to be a trauma in the background is usually supposed to be a sexual trauma involving incest. Well, as these stories would come out, there was also this idea that these recovered memories were of high fidelity, they were sitting in the mind untouched, so they must be true. If these memories were recovered, that alone is evidence of their truth, their veracity is unimpeachable. Oh, they run into these problems where the facts don't match, you know, geographical location, whatever else that somebody wasn't there when he's claiming he's supposed to be less than somebody or whatever, medical records don't exist. And so to explain that away, it becomes a larger conspiracy, you know, so you have these kinds of converging factors. And then you just have this huge satanic scare because they had the McMartin preschool case where one kid was claimed to have been molested at the school. And it turns out, the woman who, who was the mother of that child was schizophrenic, and they'd often made these outrageous claims anyway, but the whole idea devolved in this hysteria, because they then had the kid questions really interrogated by these by these unqualified therapist who felt that the, the only way to get the truth out of these children was to essentially browbeat them into into saying that they were molested, you can watch the tapes on these kinds of cases, like Martin Keller daycare case, Gerald emerald, these types of things. So they put forward this idea also that children can possibly make this thing up, but they made the ideas quite clear to the children what they were looking for. So they get these outrageous stories of the satanic calls at this McMartin preschool Center, which couldn't possibly have been true in. But being that you had such a huge social panic of the court, sometimes were cowed into imprisoning people for many years at a time. And, and as I said, this kind of thing still happens today, some Dan and Fran Keller ran a daycare center and their case is still on appeal. They've been in prison, they've been in prison all this time for the exact same type of thing. And you still have people claiming savings and you still have these therapists, you still have the pockets of therapists who work in dissociative disorders. Now multiple personality disorder is called dissociative identity disorder in the Diagnostic Statistical Manual. And they're still putting out this idea that this satanic ritual abuse exists and is and is a thing. And they really do need a group to counter this to ask them to qualify what they say about Satanism, and who they mean when they're talking about Satanists. And how they can just throw that word out there like that, as we all know what they're talking about. And I'm hoping that we can be a proper counter force to that.

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	00:44:13 Matt Dwyer: Yeah, is there... what do you have anything that is next on your agenda in any plans to... I don't know...		00:44:13 Matt Dwyer: Yeah, is there... what do you have anything that is next on your agenda in any plans to... I don't know...

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	Conversations With Dwyer: Lucien Greaves, Satanic Temple/Activist<br>		'''Conversations With Dwyer: Lucien Greaves, Satanic Temple/Activist'''<br>
	Lucien Greaves has been stirring up a lot of controversy due to the 'Pink Mass' he performed over the grave of founding member of the Wesboro Baptist Church, Fred Phelps, mother. The ritual turns straight people gay in the afterlife. Mr. Greaves joins me on a riveting talk about the 'Pink Mass', the media's irresponsibility, as well as misconceptions about satanism.<br>		''Lucien Greaves has been stirring up a lot of controversy due to the 'Pink Mass' he performed over the grave of founding member of the Wesboro Baptist Church, Fred Phelps, mother. The ritual turns straight people gay in the afterlife. Mr. Greaves joins me on a riveting talk about the 'Pink Mass', the media's irresponsibility, as well as misconceptions about satanism.''<br>
	https://shows.acast.com/mattdwyer_x/episodes/lucien-greaves-satanic-templeactivist		https://shows.acast.com/mattdwyer_x/episodes/lucien-greaves-satanic-templeactivist

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	Lucien Greaves has been stirring up a lot of controversy due to the 'Pink Mass' he performed over the grave of founding member of the Wesboro Baptist Church, Fred Phelps, mother. The ritual turns straight people gay in the afterlife. Mr. Greaves joins me on a riveting talk about the 'Pink Mass', the media's irresponsibility, as well as misconceptions about satanism.<br>		Lucien Greaves has been stirring up a lot of controversy due to the 'Pink Mass' he performed over the grave of founding member of the Wesboro Baptist Church, Fred Phelps, mother. The ritual turns straight people gay in the afterlife. Mr. Greaves joins me on a riveting talk about the 'Pink Mass', the media's irresponsibility, as well as misconceptions about satanism.<br>

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