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'''Douglas Alexander Misicko''', born 1975, also known by the pseudonyms '''Lucien Greaves''' and '''Douglas Mesner''', and perhaps others, is the co-founder of [[The Satanic Temple]], which he owns jointly with [[Cevin Soling]]. Misicko also solely owns [[The Satanic Temple Inc]].
'''Douglas Alexander Misicko''', born August 1975, also known by the pseudonyms '''Lucien Greaves''' and '''Douglas Mesner''', and perhaps others, is the co-founder of [[The Satanic Temple]], which he owns jointly with [[Cevin Soling]]. Misicko also solely owns [[The Satanic Temple Inc]].


Misicko claims to have studied neuroscience with a specialty in false-memory syndrome and graduated from Harvard University at some point.<ref>https://www.metrotimes.com/detroit/lucien-greaves-of-the-satanic-temple/Content?oid=2201492</ref>  
Misicko claims to have studied neuroscience with a specialty in false-memory syndrome and graduated from Harvard University at some point.<ref>https://www.metrotimes.com/detroit/lucien-greaves-of-the-satanic-temple/Content?oid=2201492</ref>  
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== Feuds regarding child abuse claims ==
== Feuds regarding child abuse claims ==
By the mid-2000s, Misicko had begun an (apparently ongoing) feud with self-described survivor and researcher of ritual abuse and mind control Neil Brick. <ref>https://neilbrick.com/articles/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner/</ref> This mostly revolved around the non-existence of Satanic ritual abuse, which is now commonly agreed to have been a panic. However, Misicko also took aim at people who claimed to have only understood as adults that they'd been abused as children, leading to work with the controversial and now-defunct False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF) <ref>''The Satanic Temple, a religious group with chapters in 21 states, has a vocal false-memory subgroup called the Grey Faction. The temple’s co-founder, a 43-year-old man named Doug Misicko (who uses the pseudonym Lucien Greaves), earns a living creating content for 1,097 fans on Patreon. If the FMSF are the genteel, gray-haired grandparents, the Grey Faction are their online, cult-obsessed sons.'' https://www.thecut.com/article/false-memory-syndrome-controversy.html</ref> <ref>''More Internet searching shows Greaves, as Doug Mesner, works closely with the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, which was founded by Pamela and Peter Freyd after their adult daughter Jennifer accused her father of rape. ... One of the organization’s founding members, the late Ralph Underwager, gave a lengthy interview to a pro-pedophilia journal in the 1990s in which he criticized pedophiles for not being “bold enough.” Underwager said,  “Pedophiles can make the assertion that the pursuit of intimacy and love is what they choose. With boldness they can say, ‘I believe this is in fact part of God’s will.'”'' https://www.patheos.com/blogs/feastofeden/2014/05/harvard-can-do-better-than-give-a-platform-to-a-black-mass-promoter-who-ridicules-sex-abuse-victims/</ref> <ref> ''Originally named Doug Misicko, Mr. Greaves has a long history of close involvement with the “false-memory syndrome” foundation, a group that often downplays the ramifications of sexual-abuse and actively denies victims true support.'' https://standwithharvardcatholics.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/freshmen-voice-concerns/</ref> .  
By the mid-2000s, Misicko had begun an (apparently ongoing) feud with self-described survivor and researcher of ritual abuse and mind control Neil Brick. <ref>https://neilbrick.com/articles/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner/</ref> This mostly revolved around the non-existence of Satanic ritual abuse, which is now commonly agreed to have been a panic. However, Misicko also took aim at people who claimed to have only understood as adults that they'd been abused as children, leading to work with the controversial and now-defunct False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF).<ref>''The Satanic Temple, a religious group with chapters in 21 states, has a vocal false-memory subgroup called the Grey Faction. The temple’s co-founder, a 43-year-old man named Doug Misicko (who uses the pseudonym Lucien Greaves), earns a living creating content for 1,097 fans on Patreon. If the FMSF are the genteel, gray-haired grandparents, the Grey Faction are their online, cult-obsessed sons.'' https://www.thecut.com/article/false-memory-syndrome-controversy.html</ref><ref>''More Internet searching shows Greaves, as Doug Mesner, works closely with the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, which was founded by Pamela and Peter Freyd after their adult daughter Jennifer accused her father of rape. ... One of the organization’s founding members, the late Ralph Underwager, gave a lengthy interview to a pro-pedophilia journal in the 1990s in which he criticized pedophiles for not being “bold enough.” Underwager said,  “Pedophiles can make the assertion that the pursuit of intimacy and love is what they choose. With boldness they can say, ‘I believe this is in fact part of God’s will.'”'' https://www.patheos.com/blogs/feastofeden/2014/05/harvard-can-do-better-than-give-a-platform-to-a-black-mass-promoter-who-ridicules-sex-abuse-victims/</ref> <ref> ''Originally named Doug Misicko, Mr. Greaves has a long history of close involvement with the “false-memory syndrome” foundation, a group that often downplays the ramifications of sexual-abuse and actively denies victims true support.'' https://standwithharvardcatholics.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/freshmen-voice-concerns/</ref> Under the apparent pseudonymous Facebook profile "Mikoto Niikura", Misicko also served as one of several administrators for the "self-monitored peer and discussion group" ''The False Memory Syndrome Action Network'' on Facebook, which was created in December 2012 and still active as of July 2021.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/groups/541484549213928/ False Memory Syndrome Action Network], administrator [https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100027920202154 Mikoto Niikura]</ref><ref>[https://www.fmsfonline.org/?news2015update=2015NewsUpdates False Memory Syndrom Foundation Online], comment by Pamela Freyd and J. Bean: ''The social media group "The False Memory Syndrome Action Network" or "FMS-AN" is not a part of the FMS Foundation. It is a self-monitored peer support and discussion group.''</ref>


[[The Grey Faction]], a sub-project of The Satanic Temple, has continued such work toward Misicko's interests in this area.<ref>https://danielkbuntovnik.wordpress.com/2019/04/20/the-frontman-douglas-misicko-better-known-as-lucien-greaves-and-doug-mesner/</ref> According to David Shurter, another self-described ritual abuse survivor Misicko has feuded with since at least 2015, Misicko has also used the Facebook pseudonym "Konrad Josefsson" to continue engaging with him.<ref>https://davidshurter.com/2016/05/26/6289/</ref>, as well as to tell others why Complex PTSD is beneath his contempt<ref>https://imgur.com/a/SVd4gvU</ref>.  
[[The Grey Faction]], a sub-project of The Satanic Temple, has continued such work toward Misicko's interests in this area.<ref>https://danielkbuntovnik.wordpress.com/2019/04/20/the-frontman-douglas-misicko-better-known-as-lucien-greaves-and-doug-mesner/</ref> According to David Shurter, another self-described ritual abuse survivor Misicko has feuded with since at least 2015, Misicko has also used the Facebook pseudonym "Konrad Josefsson" to continue engaging with him.<ref>https://davidshurter.com/2016/05/26/6289/</ref>, as well as to tell others why Complex PTSD is beneath his contempt<ref>https://imgur.com/a/SVd4gvU</ref>.  

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"Doug Mesner", left, and "Lucien Greaves", right
Doug Misicko
Born August 1975
Other Names Doug Mesner, Lucien Greaves, Mikoko Niikura, Konrad Josefsson
Occupation owner of United Federation of Churches, LLC, other corporations
Satanic Affiliation The Satanic Temple


Douglas Alexander Misicko, born August 1975, also known by the pseudonyms Lucien Greaves and Douglas Mesner, and perhaps others, is the co-founder of The Satanic Temple, which he owns jointly with Cevin Soling. Misicko also solely owns The Satanic Temple Inc.

Misicko claims to have studied neuroscience with a specialty in false-memory syndrome and graduated from Harvard University at some point.[1]

Sometime before 2002, Misicko began using the pseudonym "Mesner". He also befriended Church of Satan member Shane Bugbee, who ran an independent press. Together they worked on a new edition of the virulently antisemitic, misogynistic, and white supremacist proto-fascist work Might Is Right, which had formed the basis of the first section of Anton LaVey's book The Satanic Bible.

Process Church of the Final Judgement

[Under construction]

Flat Earth Books

Under the name "Doug Mesner", Misicko wrote at least five books about Flat Earth theory, per GoodReads.com:[2]

  • Flat Talk: Talking To Your Loved Ones About Flat Earth Theory[3]
  • Suddenly Flat: How I Became a Flat Earther[4]
  • Flat Earth in Three Minutes: Breaking the Spell of Globe Belief[5]
  • The Flat Earth Revolution[6]
  • The Flat Earth Revolution: The World's First Flat Earth Novel (possible duplicate)[7]
  • The Globe Delusion: It's Time To Talk About Flat Earth[8]

"Might Is Right" stream

Misicko, as Doug Mesner, illustrated a reprinting of the 19th-century proto-fascist work Might Is Right by Arthur Desmond.[9][10]

On Sept. 11, 2003, they put on a 24-hour Internet stream with Bugbee's spouse Amy Stocky Bugbee to celebrate the book's release and talk about wide-ranging subjects such as the problem with evangelicals and where Timothy McVeigh did or did not go wrong. They interviewed white supremacists Tom Metzger and George Burdi as well as Church of Satan High Priest Peter H. Gilmore.[11][12]


Archival footage supplied by archive.org

In response to a listener's comment about the Nazis ruining the idea of Social Darwinism and eugenics in popular culture, at 3:31:05 into the stream[12], Misicko would infamously say:

Threw the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak. It’s just like, ‘antisemitic’ to me isn’t a bad word. It just depends. Like, I think it’s okay to hate Jews if you hate them because they’re Jewish and they wear a stupid fucking frisbee on their head and walk around thinking they’re God’s chosen people.[13]

Misicko then clarified that it’s not okay to hate non-practicing Jews who only have "Jewish blood", however, leading Bugbee and Stocky to disagree while making increasingly aggressive claims about not liking anyone with a drop of Jewish blood as well as arguing about who and how many actually died in the Holocaust.

When directly asked if he was Jewish himself, Misicko also replied, “I’m an Aryan king!”

In 2018, the comments resurfaced as part of a broader schism between Misicko, Cevin Soling, and some other members high-ranking members on the one side and numerous local chapter leaders and members on the other, and many chapters chose to sever connections with TST that year.[14][15][16]

Feuds regarding child abuse claims

By the mid-2000s, Misicko had begun an (apparently ongoing) feud with self-described survivor and researcher of ritual abuse and mind control Neil Brick. [17] This mostly revolved around the non-existence of Satanic ritual abuse, which is now commonly agreed to have been a panic. However, Misicko also took aim at people who claimed to have only understood as adults that they'd been abused as children, leading to work with the controversial and now-defunct False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF).[18][19] [20] Under the apparent pseudonymous Facebook profile "Mikoto Niikura", Misicko also served as one of several administrators for the "self-monitored peer and discussion group" The False Memory Syndrome Action Network on Facebook, which was created in December 2012 and still active as of July 2021.[21][22]

The Grey Faction, a sub-project of The Satanic Temple, has continued such work toward Misicko's interests in this area.[23] According to David Shurter, another self-described ritual abuse survivor Misicko has feuded with since at least 2015, Misicko has also used the Facebook pseudonym "Konrad Josefsson" to continue engaging with him.[24], as well as to tell others why Complex PTSD is beneath his contempt[25].

In his July 2013 "interview" with Bugbee, Misicko would describe this work as central to the work of The Satanic Temple as well[26]:

Innocent people have been convicted and imprisoned on the “evidence” of recovered memory testimony, even though this is the exact same “evidence” we have for alien abduction, and is the same “therapeutic” process by which people practice “past life regression.” I have a long and complex body of writing, much of which can be read at www.process.org, where I detail in a number of articles how this cult-like therapy subculture continues to ruin the lives of innocent people. So one of my own goals is to destroy this harmful pseudoscientific practice, and dispel the myth of an international Satanic conspiracy. The broader goal of the Satanic Temple in general is to advocate for all of those who are unjustly maligned, demonized, or marginalized—victimized by conspiracy theorists and dogmatic supernaturalists.

The Satanic Temple

According to Professor Joseph Laycock, in March 2012, along with David Guinan and Cevin Soling, Misicko organized a protest against then-Governor of Florida Rick Scott for a fictional organization called "The Satanic Temple", which later became an actual organization.[27] Further mock protests would follow, including the "Pink Mass", which took aim at the anti-LGBT+ practices of the Westboro Baptist Church,[28] and the construction of a Baphomet monument in Detroit to compete with a 10 Commandments monument located on the grounds of the Oklahoma State Capitol.[29][30] The monument was later relocated to a newly-purchased headquarters in Salem, MA in 2016 for permanent display to the public [citation needed], then briefly relocated again to compete with another 10 Commandments monument in Arkansas.[31]

Further protest actions of The Satanic Temple revolve entirely around The Grey Faction.

Public Financial History

From 2013 to 2017, donations were solicited for The Satanic Temple on IndieGoGo through an account under Lucien Greaves' name.

Fundraising Campaigns (incomplete)
Year Name Donated Goal Result
2017 The Satanic Temple Veterans' Monument $12,673 $19,500 Ongoing litigation
2015 The Satanic Temple Reproductive Rights Campaign $45,613 $31,870 Litigation failed
2014 Untitled Draft Campaign $2,879 $75,000 N/A
2014 Put a Satanic Monument at OK Capitol $28,110 $20,000 Baphomet statue created, never placed
2013 The Satanic Temple Adopt-a-Highway Campaign $2,244 $15,000 UNK


References

  1. https://www.metrotimes.com/detroit/lucien-greaves-of-the-satanic-temple/Content?oid=2201492
  2. GoodReads.com, author "Doug Mesner". An additional book, "The Satan Hunter: Volume 1" appears to have unrelated subject matter as a fiction novel.
  3. Flat Talk: Talking To Your Loved Ones About Flat Earth Theory
    Published: Sep. 19, 2015 (32 pages)
    ASIN: B015LW2UO0
    Synopsis:
    If you've advanced beyond the Ball Earth deception and are searching for the truth, then this book will an invaluable asset in your pursuit of rational dialogue with those who haven't ventured to the edge of their own paradigms and inspected the foundations of their own worldviews.
    This is written for seekers after truth, not Flat Earthers and not Ball Earthers. This is written for those who know that theories that are closed to new data are no longer theories but dogmas. Where this will end up, nobody knows.
    Anyone claiming to know is either deceived, or involved in deception.The truth is out there but first we must change what's in our own minds, dropping our own prejudices, and questioning our own premises if we are are to arrive at it. This book will guide you and those you care about out of the wilderness of mirrors, the quagmire of lies, the Scientism maquerading as science, and the computer generated illusions presented as reality.
  4. Suddenly Flat: How I Became a Flat Earther
    Published: Oct. 9, 2015 (25 pages)
    ASIN: B016FFYDSS
    Synopsis:
    This book is my personal testimony. It is not my intention to sway you one way or the other. It's about my own shift in awareness that began when I clicked on a link to a Youtube video about Flat Earth. What at first seemed preposterous and laughable became serious and the laughter was replaced with wonder. Someone is laughing, don’t get me wrong, but it’s not at the Flat Earthers. The perpetrators of the Biggest Lie in the World are laughing at those of us who are still trapped on their ball, caught up in the ball illusion.
  5. Flat Earth in Three Minutes: Breaking the Spell of Globe Belief
    Published: Nov. 16, 2015 (34 pages)
    ASIN: B0183L857C
    Synopsis:
    I have organized this book to provide you with an effective tool for breaking the spell of Globe Belief. Each of the three chapters uses strategic questioning to engage any Globe Earthers in a productive dialogue about Flat Earth Theory.
    Although these six questions are contextualized and explained in each chapter, they also appear in the Table of Contents for easy reference once you understand how to strategically implement them.
  6. The Flat Earth Revolution
    Published: Dec. 28, 2015 (104 pages)
    ISBN:1522977570
    Synopsis:
    ...My Fellow Flat Earthers, We have a problem. As a movement, we have lost the forest for the trees. We're dividing over the minutiae when we should be uniting on the big ideas. The level of thinking which caused us to fall into the Globe Delusion will not be the same level of thinking which gets us out of here. So here is what I am proposing...
  7. The Flat Earth Revolution: The World's First Flat Earth Novel (possible duplicate)
    Published: Dec. 28, 2015 (104 pages)
    ASIN: B019YP53XK
    Synopsis:
    You have in your possession the world’s first Flat Earth novel. Although this is a work of fiction, it describes the world as it actually is.
  8. The Globe Delusion: It's Time To Talk About Flat Earth
    Published: Dec. 30, 2015 (33 pages)
    ASIN:B01A0RTZ5I
    Synopsis:
    Will 2016 be the year of The Flat Earth Revolution? It will be if author Doug Mesner has anything to do with it.
  9. https://www.vice.com/en/article/4w7adn/unmasking-lucien-greaves-aka-doug-mesner-leader-of-the-satanic-temple
  10. https://web.archive.org/web/20200924095318/https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Might-Is-Right-or-The-Survival-of-the-Fittest-by-Ragnar-Redbeard-Bugbee-21-/263591786467
  11. https://web.archive.org/web/20181129054517/http://www.shanebugbee.com/?p=916
  12. 12.0 12.1 https://archive.org/details/MightIsRightSpecial
  13. https://web.archive.org/web/20181122091306/https://www.videosprout.com/video?id=98aafea9-df67-416d-998d-46348a626005
  14. https://medium.com/@SistersSatanic/rise-decline-and-fall-my-time-in-the-satanic-temple-and-beyond-561f1ef04039
  15. https://jezebel.com/the-satanic-temple-is-engulfed-in-a-civil-war-over-a-de-1828130997
  16. https://medium.com/@Darth_Manu/my-take-on-lucien-greaves-antisemitic-rant-78ae9d13a532
  17. https://neilbrick.com/articles/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner/
  18. The Satanic Temple, a religious group with chapters in 21 states, has a vocal false-memory subgroup called the Grey Faction. The temple’s co-founder, a 43-year-old man named Doug Misicko (who uses the pseudonym Lucien Greaves), earns a living creating content for 1,097 fans on Patreon. If the FMSF are the genteel, gray-haired grandparents, the Grey Faction are their online, cult-obsessed sons. https://www.thecut.com/article/false-memory-syndrome-controversy.html
  19. More Internet searching shows Greaves, as Doug Mesner, works closely with the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, which was founded by Pamela and Peter Freyd after their adult daughter Jennifer accused her father of rape. ... One of the organization’s founding members, the late Ralph Underwager, gave a lengthy interview to a pro-pedophilia journal in the 1990s in which he criticized pedophiles for not being “bold enough.” Underwager said,  “Pedophiles can make the assertion that the pursuit of intimacy and love is what they choose. With boldness they can say, ‘I believe this is in fact part of God’s will.'” https://www.patheos.com/blogs/feastofeden/2014/05/harvard-can-do-better-than-give-a-platform-to-a-black-mass-promoter-who-ridicules-sex-abuse-victims/
  20. Originally named Doug Misicko, Mr. Greaves has a long history of close involvement with the “false-memory syndrome” foundation, a group that often downplays the ramifications of sexual-abuse and actively denies victims true support. https://standwithharvardcatholics.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/freshmen-voice-concerns/
  21. False Memory Syndrome Action Network, administrator Mikoto Niikura
  22. False Memory Syndrom Foundation Online, comment by Pamela Freyd and J. Bean: The social media group "The False Memory Syndrome Action Network" or "FMS-AN" is not a part of the FMS Foundation. It is a self-monitored peer support and discussion group.
  23. https://danielkbuntovnik.wordpress.com/2019/04/20/the-frontman-douglas-misicko-better-known-as-lucien-greaves-and-doug-mesner/
  24. https://davidshurter.com/2016/05/26/6289/
  25. https://imgur.com/a/SVd4gvU
  26. https://www.vice.com/en/article/4w7adn/unmasking-lucien-greaves-aka-doug-mesner-leader-of-the-satanic-temple
  27. In March 2012, Florida governor Rick Scott signed into law a bill “allowing students to read ‘inspirational messages of their choosing’ at assemblies and sporting events”. In order to push back against what they viewed as a violation of the separation of church and state, three friends, Malcolm Jarry, Doug Mesner, and David Guinan, decided to stage a public rally for a fictional organization called The Satanic Temple, praising Scott for finally allowing Satanists a public voice. Other publicity stunts followed, but by this time a creed had been created and TST began to coalesce into a real organization. https://muse.jhu.edu/article/772858
  28. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pink-mass-westboro-baptist-church-gay-satanists_n_3616642
  29. https://time.com/3972713/detroit-satanic-statue-baphomet/
  30. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments_Monument_(Oklahoma_City)
  31. https://apnews.com/article/1dfef6715487416eadfd08f36c7dbb4b