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'''Douglas Alexander Misicko''', born 1975, also known by the pseudonyms '''Lucien Greaves''' and '''Douglas Mesner''', and perhaps others, is the co-founder of [[The Satanic Temple]].
'''Douglas Alexander Misicko''', born 1975, also known by the pseudonyms '''Lucien Greaves''' and '''Douglas Mesner''', and perhaps others, is the co-founder of [[The Satanic Temple]], which he owns jointly with [[Cevin Soling]]. Misicko also solely owns [[The Satanic Temple Inc]].


Misicko claims to have studied neuroscience with a specialty in false-memory syndrome and graduated from Harvard University at some point.<ref>https://www.metrotimes.com/detroit/lucien-greaves-of-the-satanic-temple/Content?oid=2201492</ref>  
Misicko claims to have studied neuroscience with a specialty in false-memory syndrome and graduated from Harvard University at some point.<ref>https://www.metrotimes.com/detroit/lucien-greaves-of-the-satanic-temple/Content?oid=2201492</ref>  

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<image source="image"></image> <label>Born</label> <default>Douglas Misicko</default> <label>Died</label> <default></default> <label>Gender</label> <label>Height</label> <label>Occupation</label> <label>Appears in</label> <label>Portrays</label> </infobox> Douglas Alexander Misicko, born 1975, also known by the pseudonyms Lucien Greaves and Douglas Mesner, and perhaps others, is the co-founder of The Satanic Temple, which he owns jointly with Cevin Soling. Misicko also solely owns The Satanic Temple Inc. Misicko claims to have studied neuroscience with a specialty in false-memory syndrome and graduated from Harvard University at some point.[1] Sometime before 2002, Misicko began using the pseudonym "Mesner". He also befriended Church of Satan member Shane Bugbee, who ran an independent press. Together they worked on a new edition of the virulently antisemitic, misogynistic, and white supremacist proto-fascist work Might Is Right, which had formed the basis of the first section of Anton LaVey's book The Satanic Bible.

"Might Is Right" stream

Misicko, as Doug Mesner, illustrated a reprinting of the 19th century proto-fascist work Might Is Right by Arthur Desmond.[2][3]

On Sept. 11, 2003, they put on a 24-hour Internet stream with Bugbee's spouse Amy Stocky Bugbee to celebrate the book's release and talk about wide-ranging subjects such as the problem with evangelicals and where Timothy McVeigh did or did not go wrong. They interviewed white supremacists Tom Metzger and George Burdi as well as Church of Satan High Priest Peter H. Gilmore.[4][5]

In response to a listener's comment about the Nazis ruining the idea of Social Darwinism and eugenics in popular culture, at 3:31:05 into the stream[5], Misicko would infamously say:

Threw the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak. It’s just like, ‘antisemitic’ to me isn’t a bad word. It just depends. Like, I think it’s okay to hate Jews if you hate them because they’re Jewish and they wear a stupid fucking frisbee on their head and walk around thinking they’re God’s chosen people.[6]

Misicko then clarified that it’s not okay to hate non-practicing Jews who only have "Jewish blood", however, leading Bugbee and Stocky to disagree while making increasingly aggressive claims about not liking anyone with a drop of Jewish blood as well as arguing about who and how many actually died in the Holocaust.

When directly asked if he was Jewish himself, Misicko also replied, “I’m an Aryan king!”

In 2018, the comments resurfaced as part of a broader schism between Misicko, Cevin Soling, and some other members high-ranking members on the one side and numerous local chapter leaders and members on the other, and many chapters chose to sever connections with TST that year.[7][8][9]

Feuds regarding child abuse claims

By the mid-2000s, Misicko had begun an (apparently ongoing) feud with self-described survivor and researcher of ritual abuse and mind control Neil Brick. [10] This mostly revolved around the non-existence of Satanic ritual abuse, which is now commonly agreed to have been a panic. However, Misicko also took aim at people who claimed to have only understood as adults that they'd been abused as children, leading to work with the controversial and now-defunct False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF) [11] [12] [13] .

The Grey Faction, a sub-project of The Satanic Temple, has continued such work toward Misicko's interests in this area.[14] According to David Shurter, another self-described ritual abuse survivor Misicko has feuded with since at least 2015, Misicko has also used the Facebook pseudonym "Konrad Josefsson" to continue engaging with him.[15], as well as to tell others why Complex PTSD is beneath his contempt[16].

In his July 2013 "interview" with Bugbee, Misicko would describe this work as central to the work of The Satanic Temple as well[17]:

Innocent people have been convicted and imprisoned on the “evidence” of recovered memory testimony, even though this is the exact same “evidence” we have for alien abduction, and is the same “therapeutic” process by which people practice “past life regression.” I have a long and complex body of writing, much of which can be read at www.process.org, where I detail in a number of articles how this cult-like therapy subculture continues to ruin the lives of innocent people. So one of my own goals is to destroy this harmful pseudoscientific practice, and dispel the myth of an international Satanic conspiracy. The broader goal of the Satanic Temple in general is to advocate for all of those who are unjustly maligned, demonized, or marginalized—victimized by conspiracy theorists and dogmatic supernaturalists.

The Satanic Temple

According to Professor Joseph Laycock, in March 2012, along with David Guinan and Cevin Soling, Misicko organized a protest against then-Governor of Florida Rick Scott for a fictional organization called "The Satanic Temple", which later became an actual organization.[18]

References

  1. ↑ https://www.metrotimes.com/detroit/lucien-greaves-of-the-satanic-temple/Content?oid=2201492
  2. ↑ https://www.vice.com/en/article/4w7adn/unmasking-lucien-greaves-aka-doug-mesner-leader-of-the-satanic-temple
  3. ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20200924095318/https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Might-Is-Right-or-The-Survival-of-the-Fittest-by-Ragnar-Redbeard-Bugbee-21-/263591786467
  4. ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20181129054517/http://www.shanebugbee.com/?p=916
  5. ↑ 5.0 5.1 https://archive.org/details/MightIsRightSpecial
  6. ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/20181122091306/https://www.videosprout.com/video?id=98aafea9-df67-416d-998d-46348a626005
  7. ↑ https://medium.com/@SistersSatanic/rise-decline-and-fall-my-time-in-the-satanic-temple-and-beyond-561f1ef04039
  8. ↑ https://jezebel.com/the-satanic-temple-is-engulfed-in-a-civil-war-over-a-de-1828130997
  9. ↑ https://medium.com/@Darth_Manu/my-take-on-lucien-greaves-antisemitic-rant-78ae9d13a532
  10. ↑ https://neilbrick.com/articles/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner/
  11. ↑ The Satanic Temple, a religious group with chapters in 21 states, has a vocal false-memory subgroup called the Grey Faction. The temple’s co-founder, a 43-year-old man named Doug Misicko (who uses the pseudonym Lucien Greaves), earns a living creating content for 1,097 fans on Patreon. If the FMSF are the genteel, gray-haired grandparents, the Grey Faction are their online, cult-obsessed sons. https://www.thecut.com/article/false-memory-syndrome-controversy.html
  12. ↑ More Internet searching shows Greaves, as Doug Mesner, works closely with the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, which was founded by Pamela and Peter Freyd after their adult daughter Jennifer accused her father of rape. ... One of the organization’s founding members, the late Ralph Underwager, gave a lengthy interview to a pro-pedophilia journal in the 1990s in which he criticized pedophiles for not being “bold enough.” Underwager said,  “Pedophiles can make the assertion that the pursuit of intimacy and love is what they choose. With boldness they can say, ‘I believe this is in fact part of God’s will.'” https://www.patheos.com/blogs/feastofeden/2014/05/harvard-can-do-better-than-give-a-platform-to-a-black-mass-promoter-who-ridicules-sex-abuse-victims/
  13. ↑ Originally named Doug Misicko, Mr. Greaves has a long history of close involvement with the “false-memory syndrome” foundation, a group that often downplays the ramifications of sexual-abuse and actively denies victims true support. https://standwithharvardcatholics.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/freshmen-voice-concerns/
  14. ↑ https://danielkbuntovnik.wordpress.com/2019/04/20/the-frontman-douglas-misicko-better-known-as-lucien-greaves-and-doug-mesner/
  15. ↑ https://davidshurter.com/2016/05/26/6289/
  16. ↑ https://imgur.com/a/SVd4gvU
  17. ↑ https://www.vice.com/en/article/4w7adn/unmasking-lucien-greaves-aka-doug-mesner-leader-of-the-satanic-temple
  18. ↑ In March 2012, Florida governor Rick Scott signed into law a bill “allowing students to read ‘inspirational messages of their choosing’ at assemblies and sporting events”. In order to push back against what they viewed as a violation of the separation of church and state, three friends, Malcolm Jarry, Doug Mesner, and David Guinan, decided to stage a public rally for a fictional organization called The Satanic Temple, praising Scott for finally allowing Satanists a public voice. Other publicity stunts followed, but by this time a creed had been created and TST began to coalesce into a real organization. https://muse.jhu.edu/article/772858
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